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Do you need mode C above Class C airspace?

A Mode C transponder gives air traffic control (ATC) your altitude and an identification code. Specifically, a Mode C transponder is required if you wish to operate in Class A, B, or C airspace, at an altitude of over 10,000' MSL, or within a 30-nautical mile radius of the primary airport in Class B airspace.



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Can we fly over it? Technically yes, BUT it's still a very bad idea because a motor out would force you to descend through the Class C airspace. We CAN'T fly here without special permission from ATC. Permission should be obtained in advance by telephone (some controllers will accept a radio call).

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To enter Class C airspace, all aircraft must meet the following requirements:
  • Two-way radio.
  • Mode-C transponder.
  • ADS-B Out device.
  • Establishment of two-way communication with the airspace controller.
  • Follow speed restrictions.


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Without ADS-B Out, you can fly in any airspace except the ADS-B rule airspace defined by FAR 91.225 (see above). Note that ADS-B is not required in Class D airspace, or under a Class B or Class C airspace shelf, unless it lies within a Mode C veil.

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The purpose of Class C airspace is to enhance aviation safety in the terminal area and to decrease the risk of midair collisions by providing traffic separation service.

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ADS-B, typically, does not outright replace your Mode C transponder but is an addition to it.

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If you are flying out of a Class C or Class D airport, for a VFR flight following request, you can usually request flight following with the local ground control. Because flight following is voluntary, if the airspace is extremely busy, controllers may tell you they are unable to provide.

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Class C: This is the controlled airspace above 7,500 feet and surrounding major airports. Both IFR and VFR flights are permitted and both require ATC clearance and separation service is to be provided by ATC. Class G: This airspace is uncontrolled.

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Mode C Transponder Requirements: These aircraft may conduct operations without a transponder or ADS-B Out when operating: Outside any Class B or Class C airspace area; and. Below the altitude of the ceiling of a Class B or Class C airspace area designated for an airport, or 10,000 feet MSL, whichever is lower.

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Class C airspace never requires a separate clearance. If you are in two-way communications with the controlling facility, you satisfy the requirements for authorization through Class C airspace.

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To enter you need the control clearance and it is the control that tells each aircraft what he has to do… When a control tower only operates part time, the airspace will be designated Class C or D during the times the tower is operating, and Class E or G when the tower is closed.

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The physical dimensions of the Class C airspace will normally be a 10 NM radius capped at 4,000 feet above the primary airport elevation. This airspace must extend no lower than 1,200 feet above the surface, except that an inner core with a 5 NM radius must extend down to the surface.

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In short, the real purpose of Class F is to allow flights to remain IFR in uncontrolled environments. Since this is a sort of mix between Class E and Class G airspace, there is no Class F inside the United States.

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