Can you log PIC without a complex endorsement?

So is there any way for a not yet HP/Complex endorsed Private Pilot to log PIC time in a Mooney? Yes! As long as they fly with another pilot or instructor who is qualified to act as PIC in a Mooney (including BFR, current, medical, and Complex/HP endorsements).



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You need not have a current medical, nor flight review; you don't even need the proper endorsements if they're required to log PIC time. Please recognize that in order for this to take place there must be an acting PIC on board the aircraft responsible for the safety and operation of the flight.

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You can log training time in a simulator but you can't log PIC time. The rules on logging are in 14 CFR 61.51. There's no requirement anywhere that I can see to have a medical and/or flight review in order to log time. Logging training time in a simulator is allowed by 61.51(h):

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Flight instructors may log any flight time as PIC whenever they are providing flight instruction, whether or not they are acting as PIC (FAR 61.51).

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The pilot in the other seat is only a passenger as the aircraft does not require more than one crew member. So, only the pilot flying can log PIC time. Once airborne the pilot at the controls tells his passenger that he'd like to do some simulated instrument time.

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Except for a student pilot performing the duties of pilot in command of an airship requiring more than one pilot flight crewmember, a pilot may log as solo flight time only that flight time when the pilot is the sole occupant of the aircraft.

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The airline transport pilot (ATP) is the most advanced pilot certificate one can obtain, and it's necessary for those who want to fly commercial airliners for a living. All commercial airlines now require a pilot applicant to have an ATP certificate.

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